Friday, October 19, 2012

Huck Finn: Chapters 19 - 28

What is the most important thing that Huck learns from the Duke and the King?  Support your answer with text evidence.

60 comments:

  1. Students: When posting online, please use your first name and last INITIAL. Do not post your full name or your class period.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Replies
    1. Huck learns how to take advantage of people from the King and the Duke. This is shown in many scenarios, especially when he lies to Jim.

      Delete
  3. Well, I think the most important thing that Huck learns form our King and Duke is how it feels to take advantage of people, such as when the King goes and gets donations from the first town they stop at by claiming he a pirate out to turn all the other pirates in the Indian Ocean into good men like what had happened to him. The second example was the when the Duke went and gave the men of the town a show that did not satisfy them and when it came time for the group to take the rotten vegetables and what all else was coming to them the ducked out with $400, from this Huck and Jim talk over the new guests on their raft and as Jim expresses he don't want to meet no more kings and dukes.

    Tristan (K)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Huck definatly learned how to take advantage of people through lying. The two men were good at lying to people to persuade them to spend their money. Huck didn't think the plans would work but he soon learned how to take advantage of people because of the King and Duke.

      Dustin(B)

      Delete
    2. I agree that Huck learned how to take advantage of people, and how it felt to do it, from the King and the Duke. He also learned that taking advantage of people is not really something he wants or likes to do. Initially, he didn't seem to mind it, such as getting money from the Kings's "Pirate Fund", but eventually, as they became more sinister in their plans, such as taking money from Peter Wilks' daughters, it began to anger him.

      Delete
    3. I agree that Huck learned to take advantage of people and why he felt it was okay to do it. Huck has no boundaries for himself, and his parents dont hold him back from doing anything, Huck is on his own pretty much, so he thinks its okay to do whatever pleases him.

      Delete
    4. Well if you remember Huck's mother is dead and his father is a drunk so I really don't think his parents were the ones who be holdin' him back, I think instead its his develpoin' moral compass what holdin' him back. And he also don;t have a problem with lyin', he is havin' a problem with how the king and the duke is treatin' the folk they run into.

      Delete
    5. The king and the duke are simply examples of the change that Huck has to overcome. He is finding that his upbringing is contrary to how he feels he should act. The king and the duke are a stop along Huck's hero journey, and he come out on the other side with self -realization.

      Delete
    6. @ Captain Eacksnerphfe . . . likin' the accent 'ya got goin' on here!

      Delete
  4. The most important thing that Huck learns from the King and Duke is how gullible the people in the south are. For example, when the King and Duke act as the brothers of a recently deceased man everyone in the town believes them except Doctor Robinson. Two strange men walk into town and leave the town with $6000 because three women insist the two men are their uncles. Huck is amazed because he doesn't expect anyone to buy this because of how outrageous they are acting. The men are crying on command making the town sympathize with them. Huck says "It was enough to make a body ashamed of the human race" because of how gullible the towns people were.

    Dustin(B)

    ReplyDelete
  5. The most important thing Huck learns from the "King" and the "Duke", is that he does not want to live his life like they do, lying, deceiving and taking advantage of people for money. At the beginning of the book, this seemed to be the kind of life Huck wanted to live; like when he was in Tom Sawyer's gang, in which the only intent was to kill and pillage (p. 6). Also, when he saved the two murderers on the boat, he referenced that he may possibly become a murderer someday, and if he was in that situation, he would want somebody to help him (p.54). After his experience with the Conniving King and the Dastardly Duke, Huck probably would not choose the path of a robber or murderer if he had the choice. The real turning point for Huck was when the "Royalty" set out to steal the fortune of Peter Wilks from his 3 daughters and 2 brothers. He described his feelings towards their plan by saying it was enough to make someone ashamed of the human race (p.123). Huck learned how to take advantage of people, and how easy it was, but more importantly, he learned that morally, he could often not bring himself to do it.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Hannelore G.
    The most important thing that Huck learns from the king is that he realizes the importance to keep ones word, and not to take advantage of others.He also realizes the words he says affect others then just himself. For instance in chapter 15, when Huck says, "It was 15 minutes before I could work myself up to go and humble myself to a nigger; but I done it, and I warn't ever sorry for it afterward, neither. I didn't do him no more mean tricks, and I wouldn't have done that one if I'd a knowed it would make him feel that way."
    This is what I beleive Huck learned from the King.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Well Hannelore I completely agree with the fact that he learned how bad taking advantage of people is how it can affect the people around you, But I disagree with the fact that Huck learns to Keep his word.
      -Dustin(M)

      Delete
  7. The most important thing that Huck learns from the King and the Duke is how it feels to "treat others the way you want to be treated." From the book is when Huck watches the Duke and the King in Romeo and Juliet, the scene when they are on the balcony. The people were not staified so they through rotten vegetables at the Duke and the King. What I think is that, when he was watching the show he must of felt horrible, because he has taken advantage of people. Also as Huck observes them, he is able to judge that what they do is wrong, and learn accordingly by negative example and to not make that same mistake by acting foolish and also like a rapscallion. ~ Hannah (M)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree. I think Huck is coming to his senses, but in that way he is lying a bit more than usual. He thinks that if he lies, he can get around anything, but I think that the King and the Duke might make him realize that lying might not be the best thing to do.

      Delete
  8. The most important thing that Huck learns from the king is, he learns how it feels to take advantage of people. When there trying to get the money from the Wilkes he sees how something tear people apart. On page 141-142 Huck finds out about how the kings have separated the slave family, and how sad it made Mary Jane feel.Then Huck realized that he should help them, and change his ways of taking advantage of people. This is why I believe this is the most important thing he learned from the kings.
    -Dustin (M)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    2. I disagree with Dustin i believe Huck learns to take advantage of people.

      Delete
  9. Huck learns to take advantage of people from the Duke and the King. He watches them trick the towns people for many things and starts to believe it is alright.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think Huck believes this at first but as the story develops Huck's opinion changes.

      Delete
  10. I think that the most important thing he learns is that even if you're in a bad place, like the Duke and the King who are on the run, it's not fair to use other people suffering to your advantage. Huck sees this with the sisters and amends by getting them their money back.

    ReplyDelete
  11. I think that we are all just saying the same things over and over again. There is more to the king and the duke than that. Because Huck is put in more contact with the towns than he did before the king and the duke, Twain is able to give Huck and us a glimpse into his ideas about Southern society. The Sherbum and Boggs encounter, followed by Sherbum's speech are included in the book for no other reason than to give Huck and the audience an idea of the community and Twain's musings on its Hippocratic nature, and other themes of society

    ReplyDelete
  12. I think that the lecture that Sagmont gives about men and stabing people in the back is more complimentary to Huck's learning than the king or the duke ever could be. Sagmont shows huck what human cowardice, anger, and violence can look like in their true form. I dno't think huck has ever been confronted with this before, he has only been shown the cons and lies of the king and duke, even before he met them.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Huck learns about being taken advantage of and dishonesty. The Duke and King are con men, and are only interested in taking advantage of others. Huck learns the craft, and is beginning to lie more and more often, often to his own advantage.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree, but I don't think Huck will be creating similar scams of his own. As it progresses, Huck begins thinking things like, "I never see anything so disgusting," "till it was just sickening," and, "soul-butter and hogwash," to describe the actions of the Duke and the King.

      Delete
  14. The most important thimg Huck learns is that taking advantage of others for personal gain is not something that he takes pleasure in seeing. As he sees the "Duke and King", who are really just petty con artists, cheat more and more people over he becomes increasingly disguted by the act.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree, but I also think that Huck, weather he likes it or not, learns how to trick people. Thanks to the "King" and "Duke," he can now use these things for HIS own personal gain if he wished.

      Delete
  15. I think the feud that happens between the Gangerfords and the Shepherdsons is important because a feud also shows up in the Romeo and Juliet play that the King and the Duke put on. The King and the Duke play a lot into the lying piece of this book. They are just normal people, that are lying saying that they are royalty. Huck's credibility was also tested a lot, which I think is significant because he's a notorious lier.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This also makes him realize how bad lying really is so maybe he won't lie anymore? Doubtful but it may make him think a little bit more.

      Delete
  16. I think the most important thing that Huck learns from the Duke and the King is that lying and tricking can often get you things when you are down and with nothing, as people are often fooled. However, I think that Huck is realizing from the Duke and Kings many cons that although you can get many things from lying, he doesn't like the way it makes him feel, and I think in the future, he will think harder about taking advantage of people.

    ReplyDelete
  17. The most important thing Huck learned from the Duke and the King is that lieing does not only decieve people but it also can take advatage of them, and sometimes the only way to fix something is to tell the truth. This is shown on page 141 at the end of paragraph 1 when Huck decides to tell Mary Jane the truth about the Duke and the King. Also Huck learns that sometimes when people continue fooling others there is no choice but to stop watching "the evil" and stand for what's right. This shows growth in the character of Huck Finn.

    ReplyDelete
  18. The Duke and the King taught Huck how to take a stand against what you believe is wrong. When the Duke and the King first join Huck and Jim, Huck allows the two of them to get away with all of their wrongdoing, like on page 100 when the King makes up the story about being a pirate so people will donate money to him. Huck begins to realize that it is wrong to use other's innocence for personal gain and begins to acts on his concious when he takes the money from the King and Duke's room on page 133.

    ReplyDelete
  19. I believe the king and Duke represent educated people. That are smart, they know Shakespeare. The most important thing Huck learns is that Kings and Dukes (or people with connections and an education) will take advantage of people "below " then. This reinforces what his father has told Huck all his life.


    Keeley W

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This also represents how white people treat blacks and gives Huck a taste of what slavery is like.

      Delete
  20. The most important thing that Huck learned from the Duke and the King is that sometimes you have to get the courage to stand up for the good in a situation, even if nobody else is. On page 123, Huck does this when he describes his feelings for the plan that the King and Duke had in store for stealing the money from Peter Wilkes. It is good that Huck learns to stand up for what you believe in, because it is a huge part of his journey in "The Adventures of Hucklberry Finn".

    ReplyDelete
  21. The Duke and the King teach Huck that lying for personal gain is wrong. Even though Huck lies all the time, when he sees it happeneing from a different perspective, he realizes how wrong it is. On page 124 when the Duke and the King are pretending to be the brothers, Huck says that he has never seen anything so disgusting. Huck begins to act on this when he tells Mary Jane that the King and the Duke are frauds.

    ReplyDelete
  22. The Duke and the King help Huck understand that lying and manipulating innocent people is wrong and cruel. Huck used to lie for his own benefit earlier in the book, but finally he began to be honest with himself and to others. On page 140 and 141 Huck feels guilt and remorse towards the Wilks and more specifically Mary Jane. It is at this part in the story that Huck decides to take action and do what is right.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I disagree because the Duke and the King represent government, so they are not always teaching Huck to be honest. They are deceitful, pretending to be royalty. I do agree however that Huck does become a better person.

      Delete
  23. The Duke and King teach Huck that lying and stealing are wrong. On page 90 and 91 when Huck meets the two he sees that they are thieves and scum. He decides to help them, but then later realizes that they liars. They say that they are Dukes and Kings, but he does not want to piss them off and rain on their parade. It is more of an internal conflict with himself that he has to deal with learning to lie or to not.

    ReplyDelete
  24. As everyone else has said the Duke and the King teach through example that lying especially for stealing purposes is not the right way to go through life. At first Huck doesn't really know what to think about the two men. But as time progresses with the group, Huck starts to understand what the two men are up two. On page 140 and 141 Huck becomes fed up with the two frauds and decides to be honest with the Wilks, and finally stands up for what he believes is right.

    ReplyDelete
  25. Huck learned quickly from the King and Duke that self reward is not always the most important thing. This insight for Huck, also led to his increased morality and willingness to be wrong. This is apparent when he apologizes to the Wilks and feels bad about his terrible lies and sneaky manuevers (P. 140-141). Things like the false circus made Huck realize he should possibly attempt to live his life with better values and respect for people. We shall soon see if this experience truly impacted Huck...

    ReplyDelete
  26. Huck learns the valuable lesson of standing up against the bad people who are the Duke and the King because they are taking advantage of the Wilks. Huck is offended by the way that the deceitful fellows are treating him (p.140-141) and he gets a little glimpse of the way that the scam is to the people its against. This awareness makes Huck realize what's right and help the right group.

    ReplyDelete
  27. Huck learned from Duke and King about honesty, how it could be bent and how it should remain truthful. But most of all he learned that he doesn't want to be so deceitful when he grows up, and this may effect the way that he makes decisions through rest of the book.

    ReplyDelete
  28. The most important thing that Huck learns from the Duke and the King is how foolish people are and how you can con people and earn a profit from it. For example, when Huck witnessed the Duke and the King tricking people to watch a awful show that cost a lot of money, or when the Duke and the King took over the printing press.They showed Huck how dishonest people can be and is starting to guide him in the right path.

    ReplyDelete
  29. Huck learns that people are easily fooled and the world ooutside the raft is evil and deceiving expressed by the arrival of the duke and the king. These two plus the fueding families' farm also teach Huck that people are not always what they seem because both the groups are looked upon with awe at fist later to be looked upon with disgust when Huck finds out why the families are feuding and who the king a duke really are: fakes and driven by deceitful pride.

    ReplyDelete
  30. Huck learned about honesty from the Duke and the King, he learned that honesty isnt always a consistant in any adults lives. He learns that when he grows up he doesn't want the life that these men have. He thinks over his life and how much he lies and he looks at the Duke and the King. This may decide his choices when it come to self gain and the right thing to do later on in the book.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Huck learns from the "Duke" and the "King" that people are easily suseptable if you put in a little effort. They also show him what evil truely looks like, by conning a church into donating money to a cause (trying to convert pirates to Christianity) that was just a pile of horse feathers. Although they enlightened him on the bad side of humanity, the two also strengthened his belief that lying was acceptable. Hopefully Huck won't fallow their path as he continues on his journey.

    ReplyDelete
  32. At the point in the book when Huck meets the Duck and King he had been leying and deciving many people. When he first met the Duke and King he begins to realise how leying affects the people lied to. Huck then starts to become disgusted with the Ducke and King hurting everyone the run into by leying to them.

    ReplyDelete
  33. I think Huck learned a lot about bad people. He learned how to lie and decieve but I think he also learned that nobody is all bad. For example when Huck first met the Duke and the King they had been run out of town for making toothpaste and running meetings for alcoholics. The only problem with this is the toothpaste took off enamel and the person who ran the meetings drank alcohol. Both the Duke and the King were trying to do something good but because they lied about it they were chased out of town.

    ReplyDelete
  34. I think Huck learned a lot of about lying and deceiving from the Duke and the King. First, they lie about being a duke and a king but like it says on page 95 Huck learned from his father that it is best to just let people like them have their own way. Eventually, they start taking advantage of people and lie more. I think Huck will think about them and everything they do when he makes decisions later in the book.

    ReplyDelete
  35. The King and the Duke represent government, which is ironic because they are lying and deceitful people. Huck learns how to survive in the world, along with many other lessons Huck needs in the real world outside of his home.

    ReplyDelete
  36. The King and the Duke use their acting skills to trick and deceive people. Huck slowly figures out the tricking and deceiving. He describes how disgusting and foolish the human race is. Huck tells himself he does not want to be this way. I believe the most important thing that Huck learns is that lying and being a con man usually puts you in a bad place, and gets you caught.
    Austin(J)

    ReplyDelete
  37. Huck watches the Duke and King lie, cheat, and steal. As he observes this, he begins to form an opinion about foolery. Although he has a pre-instilled belief from his father about how "borrowing" things is okay as long as you plan to return them, his morals sharpen up a bit when he sees the extreme amount of their foolery. He knows it's wrong and doesn't like it, so I think he learns about limits on tricking people and not to cross those limits. All that will do for you is short term satisfaction and long term paranoia that someone will bust you.

    ReplyDelete
  38. The Duke and the King are full of hypocritical morals. Since they represent government, it would make sense that they should also represent trust and kindness. Instead, they are liars. They trick Huck and he decides he doesn't want to be the kind of person they are. Huck learns that the world isn't full of good people. He learns that even the people who are expected to be good aren't always.

    ReplyDelete
  39. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  40. Huck learns how people take advantage of other people and he applies it to himself when he is with the Duke and Dauphin. In fact, he took advantage of Jim by lying to him about them when their raft was split up by the steamboat. Throughout the story, Huck eventually learns that the action of fooling someone is absurd and does what he thinks is right when he takes the Duke's and Dauphin's money they had earned from fooling people.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Huck learns how horrible it is to fool people. He sees the Duke and King get money for nothing, and deceive people. Huck was trained to "borrow" from his father, but the acts of the Duke and the King show him how morally wrong "borrowing" is.

    ReplyDelete